How are you moving stuff between computers?
I´ve tried with archive method (making an archive and open the archive file in the other computer), and coping my session folder to another computer, with both methods the recorded .wav files are lost, include when I looking for them in the same pc where I started with my session, I cant found the recorded files on my computer, but these are present in my session. It´s a weird issue.
It’s also weird that you can see the waveform for a file that’s not present on your system.
Underneath your main session folder you’ll find a sub-folder called ‘peaks’. With the session closed, try deleting all the contents of that folder and then re-open the session. This should cause the peak files to get regenerated. Do you still see those waveforms or are they missing now?
hello John, thank you for reading this post. I´ve deleted all files into peaks folder and the waveform graphs was re-generated when I opened again the Ardour session, but the .wav files from my recorded guitar is not visible in the session folder structure nor anywhere in my disk…I think that is a bug, In some sessions works fine, but in the most of cases I have this wierd failure (only on windows 10, Ardour on Ubuntu works fine ).
Note: I´ve descripted the process in my PC, when I switch to my laptop (ubuntu) I can´t load the missing files because I can´t find them in the windows machine (but the session is reading them. Absolutely weird issue.
To deal with this I exporting my tracks without effects and I replace them in the new computer.
The files are indeed missing from the zip file you sent me. There seems to be a different, unrelated issue regarding the use of ‘%’ in file names related to stereo tracks, but lets ignore that for now.
I’m going to suggest that you read this page: linux - Equivalent of Unix find command on Windows - Super User
then use the information and examples there to search you entire drive(s) for the “missing” audio file(s). Let us know what you find.
hello Paul. I tried with this .wav lost using the command suggest to find the file…
File is not found.
I´ve tried with *.wav in the session folder and I´ve found other files, but not gtr_rythm
Searching for recorder:… will not work because : is not allowed in any windows filename. You need to use a pattern match against the filename after the colon.
Also, have you rebooted the machine since recording this session?
Also - searching for d:\gtr_rythm_01-4.wav might only search in one folder.
And is that name right? Your screenshots make it look like the missing file is called gtr_sfr01-1.wav
Try searching with asterisks:-
dir /s gtr_r*.wav
or maybe
dir /s gtr_sfr01-*
“:” in a filename is allowed; but the resulting file is a bit strange and that’s probably the cause of mlopezfunes’ problems.
If you start a cmd prompt, type notepad recorder:gtr_test.wav and hit Enter you get a file that you can type into and save.
If you look at it in Explorer it’ll appear as a zero byte file named “recorder” and if you try to open in there it’ll appear empty.
But if you go back to the cmd session and type the same line you’ll see the content again.
There is a “recorder” file in mlopezfunes’ google drive folder so I’m guessing that is the actual wav-file.
There doesn’t seem to be any elegant way to rename the file but one thing that should work is to go to the audiofiles folder in a cmd window, run notepad recorder:gtr_rythm_01-4.wav and Save As gtr_rythm_01-4.wav
A neat thing about Notepad is that it doesn’t add any formatting to the content of the file, so the new file should be the same valid wav as the strangely named one. (EDIT: This is incorrect. Notepad++ , however, works that way)
Notepad reads the entire file into memory so the above may not be feasible if the file is too large.
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Also; if you use cmd and notepad to create a recorder:gtr_test2.wav file you’ll get a separate file with a separate content but Explorer will still only see it as one “recorder” file.
So the “recorder” file in the google drive folder is probably all of the different recorder: files mlopezfunes has in that session.
The “recorder” file in the zip produced by google drive is an empty file.
It appears to be empty because Windows file manager can’t handle it properly.
As I explained in my previous post the only way I’ve found to access the file hiding behind the “:” is to use cmd.
I tried
type c:\Windows\Media\Ring05.wav > empty:testfile.wav
and ended up with a zero byte file called “empty” both in the file manager and when running dir.
Then I ran
notepad empty:testfile.wav
and saw the RIFF WAVEfmt header and the rest of the file.
But I can’t save it as testfile.wav and be able to play it and I can’t use Audacity to open in in cmd.
NCH Software’s WavePad was able to open the file using
<path to>\wavepad.exe empty:testfile.wav
I thought the recorder: issue had been fixed recently - or hasn’t there been time to release it yet?
It is fixed, but there’s no release yet (soon, though!)
hello Paul, I´ve tried with “recorder:” without “recorder:” and *.wav and I can´t found the recorded files.
I´m trying the method explained by Peder Hedlund using notepad right now.
yes, I´ve tried it but the search doesn´t found the files.
If you look at my findings in the posts above your files should be hidden under the seemingly empty “recorder” file in your audiofiles folder.
That’s under the presumption that the "missing " tracks play OK in your windows session.
If you have deleted the “recorder” file that won’t be the case.
The only proper way to get them out seems to be to use some variants of the cmd alternatives I’m suggesting in the posts above.
Another way would be to turn off all effects, export the individual tracks separately and then import them into your linux session.
Do note that you apparently have to use NotePad++ to be able to save the files correctly.
Windows own NotePad version didn’t work for me.
Thank you very much Peder, finally here is the solution!. In effect, when I opened with notepad++ from cmd prompt the file recorder:gtr (as the name of ardour region source is retrieved) and I saved it with another name (without “recorder:”), the file is finally useable in another session out of my PC. Thank you, Thanks Paul and John for your time and attention. Very kind of you. Thanks!!!
Note: Is this a bug in windows version of Ardour or that is a issue only on my PC?
Glad I could help.
It’s a bug in Ardour in general, in v6.6, but it’s only a problem when you move a session from or to Windows.
Ardour in Windows appears to be able to use a recorder:filename.wav file and in Linux, and probably Mac, “:” in a filename works fine.
You can use Windows file manager and copy the “empty” recorder file from one directory to another and still be able to access its underlying content but I haven’t found a way to transfer it to another computer and still be able to do that.
I’d imagine that there’s problem moving a Linux session with recorder: files to a Windows PC as well.
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Paul mentioned earlier that it’s fixed for the next release. I’m not sure what the fix is but it’s unlikely it’ll help much for ‘already affected’ sessions. But at least you shouldn’t see this problem any more in future sessions.
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