Ardour Session using 2 ASIO devices

I just reached out to him. When I get a response, I’ll let you know.

In the meantime, check out this article. The first section is installing which I think you have already done, but the second section describes how to set it up with your soundcard and DAW.
https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/installing-and-using-asio4all-for-windows/

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Okay, he says the “only trick” is that when you install you have to “check the config box that the installer says ‘is useless’”. Whatever that means, heh.

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Hi all I’m “The Buddy”. A little background. I have used ASIO4All to combine my Scarlet 6i6, Roland Duo Capture EX, Roland TR8 (which has like 15 different inputs and a couple outputs) so I can use all of them on Ardour at once. The only issue I have there is with SO many devices, and the Focusrite having its own ASIO, the software crashes unless you increase the buffer to a point where the lag is a bit too much for me.

Now - to your issue Sonorhc, can you post your windows “audio devices” screen as a screenshot? or tell me what is on there? That’s the first place to start.

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Cant you do that with jack and ardour on windows?

As far as I know, Jack is not stable on Windows

Hi A Wadekar aka “the Buddy” !

I guess this solution will be fine for me, I don’t need synchronization, big buffers are still OK.
I have reinstalled ASIO4ALL using the trick (check “Off Line Settings” during installation) plugged my ZM1 microphone (having its own ASIO) and run Ardour with ASIO4ALL as Input/Output.
The caption shows what I got with ASIO4ALL : no sign of a ZM1 microphone.

ASIO4ALL

Are you running the ZM1’s ASIO? I believe A is running the ASIO that his Scarlett requires alongside ASIO4ALL.

I’m not sure if I well understand your question :thinking:
I can use the ZM1 as an ASIO device on Ardour, I did some recordings with the ZM1 (19 input channels), it works fine. But I’d like to use the Madiface for Output (64 channels with its own ASIO too).

Okay, when you said the ZM1 has its own ASIO I thought you meant ASIO software. Like the Focusrite Scarlett interface has its own software, so A had to run that software as well as ASIO4ALL to get the whole thing to work.

It is, I use it, no problems, no crash. But programs don’t usually support it so there will be no jack transport sync. I don’t know how to set that up but programs will see jack as a fake soundcard. Like an extra layer with but with no extra latency.

It doesn’t seem to be possible to use ZM1 in ASIO4ALL then ?

I’ll have a second look on Jack but so far it never worked well on my computer

Do you use an audio interface? They will sync both devices and use only one sound card.

I mean its hard to say. We’ve asked at least twice now for you to post a screenshot of your windows “audio devices” screen so we can at least see what is recognized by the system itself. I highly doubt there’s anything terribly special about the ZM1 that keeps it from working with a software like ASIO4All.

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Hi there,

Sorry for this incredibly late response, I was busy on other projects. Here are the screenshots of the “Windows audio devices” . The Madiface is recognized, but not the ZM1, exactly like ASIO4ALL.

WindowsRecordings WindowsSpeakers

Well, this is strange. Earlier it was the ZM1 that was recognized by ASIO4ALL but not the madiface, correct? Do either of these devices have their own software that is required to work? Because that is definitely necessary. @awadekar gets his setup to work by running the software for his Scarlett 6i6 and the software for the Roland TR-8 and only then can he use ASIO4ALL to get everything working together. Otherwise, I really don’t know what else to tell you other than to install Linux and use JACK :wink:

No external software per se, but just the drivers that get automatically downloaded by windows.

But yeah either way @Sonorhc I don’t see your ZM1 so it looks like windows hasn’t recognized it as a device… Can’t help you beyond that, you’ll need windows to see the ZM1 before ASIO4ALL can be of any use.

“Earlier it was the ZM1 that was recognized by ASIO4ALL but not the madiface, correct?”. No, the situation was exactly the same before, ASIO4ALL recognized the Madiface, not the ZM1, exactly like the Windows audio settings.

The ZM1 does not need specific software, only drivers. Can it be recognized by Ardour but not by windows ? That seems weird.

Unfortunately I can’t use anything else than Windows :fearful:

Ok I get it a bit better (sorry for not being familiar with audio protocols and DAWs, that’s my first experience using such tools :woozy_face:).

The Madiface uses its own “hidden” automatic software/driver to define some channels as WDM devices, that’s why it appears in the audio control panel.
Ardour is able to read ASIO devices, but Windows cannot. Then, to use the ZM1 in ASIO4ALL, I need first to “convert” the ZM1’s ASIO into a WDM devices.