The problem is caused by using UI scaling below 100%. It has already been fixed in git (thus, in the nightlies).
Many thanks for your fast reply. Just to clarify, does this mean the 9.7
download is not fixed yet?
Warmest regards as ever
We donāt āfixā a release. It is whatever it is/was at the time it was released. We havenāt judged this to be a sufficiently critical bug to merit another release yet. Subscribers and self-builders can get the fix already.
Thank you for all of your hard work on this. It works fine using the
nightly build.
As a matter of curiosity, is this an x11/ Wayland problem? The reason I ask
is that I will shortly be rebuilding the music PC, and I wonder if anyone
has any views on the future of X11.
Since moving to Linux around 2012-ish ( Ubuntu Warty Warthog, I think), I
have used two applications which, in my opinion, are peerless and have no
equivalent. One of these is Ardour, the other is Darktable. Thank you,
Paul, and all of the team, for their tireless work
Many Thanks
Alastair Fulcher
Hi,
There is probably no future for X11 (aside from XWayland) and the ābigā Desktop Environments (Gnome, KDE, XFCE4, LXQt at the very least). So I suppose for many people it will be Wayland without questionā¦ However not all of Linuxdom bows to the will of the Red Hat gods and Open Source is a two-edged sword where some things manage to hold on against all odds (ie Devuan, antiX, Artix and MX remaining systemd-free or optional). Although the XLibre project has been a public relations nightmare itās code seems pretty robust, Iām using it daily and it actually uses less RAM than Xorg and I have no issues running Ardour and all my regular applications. Iām certainly not a Wayland-hater or an Xlibre zealot, my current DE doesnāt have Wayland fully implemented yet so Iām curious to see if X11 has a horse that can still run until such time as there is no longer a vaild choice. Ardour at this point seems better with X11 and since they have no plans to turn it upside down for Wayland I would personally make my DE choice for a future PC build around Ardour not the Desktop Environmentā¦ Just my opinionā¦
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No, itās unrelated to X11 or Wayland. It was caused by a very small but consequential coding mistake that only causes problems if the UI scale is set below 100%.
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Probably a dumb question but how does one enable the vertical summary? āDisabled by defaultā but I canāt find a setting for it in Preferences.
EDIT: yep that was a dumb question. Itās in the menu: View > Show Vertical Summary.
Thank you, Glen, for your opinion and thank you again, Paul
Must we, nobody is forcing distros to use anything.
There are more subtle ways than force to get things done, the end result is often the same. What other organization has reinvented the init system, audio server and graphics compositor which is then adopted by every other mainstream Distro (sometimes to benefit and sometimes not)? Red Hat calls the tune and that has been clearly illustrated many times over, whether thatās good or bad is above my pay grade but itās a curious thing to observe that Linux isnāt as free of corporate oversight and influence as it says on the can.
Nice catch, updated the release notes accordingly.
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Off-topic, but I have strong thoughts on this as someone who wants Linux (specifically GNU/Linux) to remain free of corporate influence. It really sucks that so many giant corporations are huge sponsors of the Linux Foundation (meaning they presumably have some sway over what happens, though Iām not sure of the exact amount of leverage in practice) and that corporations such as Red Hat and Canonical have such large amounts of influence over the GNU/Linux ecosystem.
That being said: Most of the infrastructural improvements I have seen since I started using GNU/Linux (first Ubuntu, then CrunchBang Linux, and then Debian) have been genuinely useful. While PulseAudio was a nightmare initially, it also was a genuine leap forward for the average usecase (e.g. being able to play a YT video and be on a video call at the same time). While systemd is highly opinionated and has done some questionable things, it also has made it way easier to get a good system overview, sandbox programs, cap resource usage, and overall manage the system.
Itās not that it was impossible to do earlier, and itās not even that systemd is the only way to do it (clearly not, if s6, runit, etc have anything to say about it). But it had the resource backing to actually get distros to move away from sysvinit, which is absolutely awful for many of those things.
Donāt even get me started on Xorg. While Wayland makes a ton of controversial decisions (some are absolutely mindboggling, like not dealing with color profiling properly even today), in my experience it has turned GNU/Linux into a mostly plug-and-play system that actually works without too much fuss. The number of times I randomly had my xorg.conf borked for no reason (usually after an upgrade) is something I donāt wish to relive.
I wonāt deny that sometimes they push to bring things inside systemd thatā¦probably donāt belong there. But overall, I do think the standardization (and sometimes reworking of how core things operate) has been beneficial to the ecosystem at large.
Itās funny because Canonical, the other large operator in this space, tends to introduce their own competing stuff which has almost always been inferior to whatever Red Hat produces while also being quite a bit more centralized (think snap vs flatpak, for example). And their projects ended up failing in general (Upstart, Unity, Mir, etc) and they were forced to adopt the same stuff everyone else was using. The only reason snap is still a thing is that they literally force Ubuntu users to use it lol ā otherwise it would have died a long time ago.
Anyway, I do overall think these projects have been beneficial to the ecosystem at large because it removed pointless differences and created a common base which most GNU/Linux software can expect to be available (and if you donāt want to use it, youāre on your own). Sure, there was arm-twisting from Red Hat folks, but the software is also genuinely useful and solved a ton of pain points (particularly from the developer side) that had existed for a long time.
Such opinions on all sides are informed by personal User experiences, I guess Iāve been very lucky, since 2006 Iāve never had to mess with a single xorg.conf nor did sysvinit ever fail or cause one issue that caused me any downtime. As far as PulseAudio when I let it do what it was designed to (Desktop Audio) it worked perfectly but I will admit as an Audio Distribution maintainer I pretty much had to provide a working PulseAudio/JACK solution (with pajackconnect) that I never used myself so to that end I agree that PipeWire was a good move forward. I find the three packaging formats (Snap, Flatpak, AppImage) to solve the original 2 packaging format (Deb, RPM) problem to be a solution devoid of any common senseā¦ 
I donāt think Wayland as it is currently going is going to move the needle for Linux ease of use, sure perhaps it will get some edge-case Graphics up and running easier but is Xorgās track record really so bad in this regard? If youāre an Ardour user you may bump into Wayland issues later so to me AS IT IS NOW I donāt think Wayland is eating Xorgās lunch across the board just yetā¦
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Not to mention an extreme waste of hard-drive space and extra headache of permissions and file access.
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110% agree lol 
We should have just stuck to deb/rpm + appimage if you want something self-contained. Proponents would argue though that flatpak (especially) also does sandboxing and such, butā¦you can do that with firejail, bubblewrap, systemd, AppArmor profiles, or SELinux (if youāre super hardcore). None require the packaging format/runtime itself to integrate sandboxing.
I really think it just depends. I think itās lowered the bar for casual GNU/Linux usage (Iām emphasizing GNU here because Android is also a Linux distro technically, but that doesnāt count), perhaps at the cost of certain things that Wayland just doesnāt want to implement.
Maybe Iām lucky, but Iāve never run into Wayland-specific issues (I use sway if it matters), at least not that I can recall. I havenāt run into many issues with Ardour at all, for that matter.
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As a Linux newbie (still 
) all i can say is that iāve had problems with xorg and pulse in the past.
If i think about it, that could be one of the main reasons why i never sticked to it for too long and why this is maybe 3rd or 4th round of me trying to stay on Linux. That, unavailability of the propretary apps i need (this one will never go away, at least, not in my lifetimeā¦iāve accepted it) andā¦troubles with grub.
Those days, mostly i had one desktop and one laptop so it was no fun when something broke in my dual-boot setups.
Xorg left me unable to use DE numerous of times after improper shutdown, change of hardware display or simple change in display settings, and even an accidentaly engaged sleep mode.
Pulse was annoyng when it became predominant in distros, always taking over control of audio at the wrong time. Iāve removed it completely numerous times. Sometimes i was seriously boggled by 13 different os audio mixers that seemed to all control the audio at the same time.
These problems didnāt went away completely, but they seem not to be so annoying anymore. Maybe itās just me handling these issues with more grace .
That being said, iām absolutely against following the corporate steering in floss world. Thatās why i havenāt touched Ubuntu in a very long time and iām not going to, aldo Ubuntu Studio was the distro that worked the best from an user/audio guyās perspective. If you let Canonical, IBM/Red Hat run the whole show, youāll just end up with another āproductā, another Windows, another MacOS. Whatās the use of that, or to reframe the question, why would anyone want another sealed up, shiny product that serves its masters and competely disregard your opinions/wants as a userā¦What, we donāt have enough of those kinds of things already?
That ship sailed a long time ago (if it ever existed). Desktop Linux is a tiny proportion of Linux users, the majority are corporate - think web hosts, data centres, embedded industrial applications, etc.
And this is fine, corporate != bad.
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Linux is about flexibility. I donāt like Ubuntu or RedHat for personal use and I find myself sticking to Debian (been on it for decades now). And when you install from scratch, you decide which DE to install or whatever you want.
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That might be the case right now, but I do think Microsoft shenanigans are increasingly pushing people away (at least somewhat), and this time Desktop GNU/Linux is actually a somewhat viable alternative (unlike 18 years ago when I switched, when it was doable but you genuinely needed to be proficient in the terminal if anything broke). Steam for games and the proliferation of web-based tools has made the OS somewhat irrelevant, but that also means that people looking to switch donāt need to worry as much.
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Steam is owned by a corporation producing proprietary software.
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