If you zoom in or out while the region is expanded it might throw you off when you try to return to the previous layout. I usually just scroll left and right while editing (but not zooming) and then I’m able to return to the same layout no problem. Once I have the midi inside the region sorted I do more precise editing and arranging in a broader layout. I’ll have tracks at different heights and the z, shift-z just lets me pop in and out of selected midi regions without changing the previous heights. That’s what works for me, everyone is different. Just sharing my approach.
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I hadn’t thought of that — that’s a nice idea, especially combined with some Lua scripting. Thanks!
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But it’s very hard for me to avoid zooming when doing precise editing. AFAIK, in Ardour the grid elements must be visible if you want to snap to them. So you need to zoom in quite a lot if you want to align a note to 1/128 or 1/64.
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128th notes!!?? Are you writing some kind of Quantum Music!!? 
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I mean I’ll end up zooming in at times also, but Its not really an issue for me. Its just another way of doing things and a way that works me.
Yeah, just a little tribute to Erwin Schrödinger. 
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Elliott Carter, or some Nancarrow
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Double checked, but no — unfortunately not in the ‘Made with Ardour’ category…
PS. Message to the mods: Maybe it’s time to split this topic and make a ‘Quantum Music’ thread? 
And apologize for adding some noise to the forum.
OMG - very … ehm … interesting.
You are not telling me that this should be an exercise to be played by a real human player ?
Seems i’m in two camps simultaneously. I do stuff professionally, but i also do other stuff just for myself. Professionally, almost always i use Cubase for several reasons (pitch/time correction, it’s almost bugless under windows which most of people around me use, it’s widespread amongst audio people so i can delegate/collaborate and so on…).
Lately, when doing stuff just for myself I lean towards Ardour. In what it does, i think it’s great, and i just love the philosophy behind floss, always did. Would like to use ardour professionally, but in the commercial world there’s just no room for “i can’t do that” or “just wait a few more hours/days/months”.
This switching between daws is somewhat distracting, but also liberating, so…I don’t see this dilemma of mine will be solved soon .
The point is, just because of some lacking features, i just can’t justify using ardour professionally and promote it as a complete daw to other people who do prossional audio related tasks, while at the same time i do think it’s very professional.
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If someone is already busy making a living using a functioning piece of software they know and are happy with, I don’t see why they would want to entertain the idea of spending time changing to something else regardless of feature comparison. Not used Cubase for a long time but I am sure it is still very good.
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The point is, most DAWs available today are very affordable and offer most of the features you really need. Even on Linux, you have options when it comes to finding a decent, feature-rich DAW at a good price, even if you are an amateur. The days when a decent DAW cost a fortune are over. But the fact is: if you try a pitch/time correction tools once, there is no way back
You can do pitch correction with melodyne. It works well on windows and linux with yabridge. Or which tools do you mean?
Well, that’s a long story, but it comes down to my opinion that the whole world is being progressively more and more locked down in every possible way, so i don’t like supporting that direction. It makes me think of myself as a part of the worldwide problem.
Windows is getting worse with their nonsense, Cubase is cool as a tool but that’s about it.
Basically, it comes down to worldview, and I don’t like what I currently see.
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Correctamundo. When you know what it is and understand the definition then you start to see it everywhere and not just in a Baader Meinhof way.
It’s why I think supporting FOSS projects is so important.
Of course, that’s not to say there aren’t non-FOSS projects and products (DAWs, plugins) that don’t use enshittifying business practices / DRM / etc, because there are a good few that even I name-drop at every opportunity. And long may they continue developing great wares free of bull shit.
But in my opinion, supporting FOSS projects is the most meaningful resistance against an ever-worsening enshittification situation.
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Put differently: Ardour - it might be crap, but it will never be enshittified! 
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Ardour 9 - Enshittify This
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Which versions of Melodyne, Wine, Wineasio, and yabridge do you use?
I haven’t been able to install and run Melodyne for ages.
I played a bit with ardour 9, and this is pretty much the only thing i don’t like. When using two screens, it’s just wasting space in my mixer when the exact same transport bar is visible on the other screen.