What's coming in Ardour 9.0

The usual answer to these queries is “when it’s ready”… :wink: :smiley:

If you get a more specific answer then you must be special…

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Is there a chance to get the polarity analyzer from Mixbus into Ardour?

It is a closed source 3rd party VAMP plugin. So in theory possible, but in practice the status-quo is to reserve closed-source additions for 3rd party derivatives.

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Meh. Damn these closed source plguins. TY for clearing that out, Robin.

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Will the sidebars and the lower pane be switchable? I like it simple and tidy, and what’s more, there is just enough space for 18 tracks plus monitor section on my screen (make optimum use of your resources!), without having to scroll left or right. In the heat of the battle I find the latter quite annoying…

I don’t understand programming, but I remember that in this thread someone proposed a script (which my limited knowledge doesn’t allow me to understand).
I guess if it wasn’t considered then it couldn’t be implemented, but would it be possible to do something with it?

PS apologies for my bad English

No. We are not going down the Reaper route of providing a mechanism for users to rearrange the GUI. If you want that and it is important to you, Reaper is available and is a fine DAW.

We provide options for you to see or not see various elements in the GUI, but not change where they are. The 9.0 GUI will feature a consistent model in which every page/tab (editor, mixer, cue page, recorder) has a main contents area, optionally visible left, right and bottom panels (whose contents are fixed) and an upper bar that may optionally (probably) include transport control.

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I believe this is a misunderstanding. I didn’t mean: switch the right panel to the left and vice versa, or the lower panel to the sides, I meant what you just stated, that one can “switch” the panels on and off. “Toggle” would have been more accurate, right? If this is the case, then everything is good! Which is the title of a 1998 song by the american band Swell by the way, look it up on YouTube, it’s great.

May I assume, that the Mixbus 11 way of showing things (side/bottom-panel, not the mixer gui) will be implemented in Ardour 9?

Yes, if you download the nightly build you can see it in there. What I really like after checking it is this solution to having the tabs on the side, displayed all sideways, now being 2 tabs that can be configured to what you want. Simple and elegant hehe
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Awesome, those are great features to be seen :star_struck:

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Really looking forward to 9, awesome features.
Would the new piano roll allow for keyboard-only step-time entries, or make it easier to develop later on? Discussed earlier here Alternative step-entry for faster keyboard-only workflow ?

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It’s mostly orthogonal.

The hard part of this work was refactoring the code that was originally intended to be used in the context of the entire Editor “canvas” display so that it could be used anywhere, any number of times, at any size/scale.

How step entry works is not really related to that.

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Cool, dedicated PianoRoll and RTA .
I’m not ashamed to admit that i did and still do use Cubase (old habbits die hard), so a dedicated pianoroll feels like home to me. I was always annoyed when working with midi in Ardour, mainly cause of this (and velocity lolipops, which are already added).
Now we only need handy time-stretching & pitch-shifting with the highest posible algorithm quality, and bunch of drum related pristine recorded big sample librarys - not a lot to ask for :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: .
I’m aware of how Paul feels about theese tools (like, for example, i also hate when i can hear any glimpse of auto-tune sound) but being able to correct something that i missed during recording of performance when the artist is long gone from studio, or sometimes when you realise that some instrument is partialy slightly of is a really good option.
But hey, these new features are also great, didn’t mean to be a drag.

That will be quite a challenge, because that algorithm seems to be unavailable to Ardour.

That is something you can use a plugin for, and there are various ones out there.

Seeing as this is unrelated to DAW development, this is something that any musician or producer could contribute. Neither paul nor me are sufficiently competent in that field. Ardour already has a library manager for samples and clips. Making more available would be trivial once someone provides them.

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This is fantastic and all, but is that Pipewire bug I showed part of the bug fixes? I want to be able to do MIDI work on it again soon (and keep Zrythm, which I have to use right now, for archival of a different project or two).

Can you clarify what you mean? I looked through your older posts, and all I found was a report of seg fault that you said was also duplicated with the ALSA backend, so I wouldn’t call that a “pipewire bug.”
It is also the clearly stated policy that only Pipewire/JACK backend bugs which are duplicated using jackd, i.e. shown to be a true Ardour error and not a pipewire regression, will be addressed.

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I have been checking nearly daily for the release of 9. Are we getting close? :heart:

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At least close to a beta release…
Recently checked latest 9…and it’s still very much alpha.

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