What program or plug in Do you suggest for virtual drums in ardour?

@lilith33

That does a lot to extend the capabilities of drumkV1 but it’s important to note that both drumkv1 and fabla both only allow single layers of samples so every programmed MIDI hit is playing the same sample at different velocities and volumes. Sample sets that are multisampled play a completely different sample at different velocities, how much this matters very much depends on the style and genre of music of course, but it is a limitation.

@GMaq: Sure, but I don’t care too much about realistic drum sounds :smiley:

Check out Sitala: https://decomposer.de/sitala.html

I don’t think it’s been mentioned on the forums here yet. Wonderful little drum sampler plugin that feels a bit like Live’s Drum Rack instrument.

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sorry for bumping, but many thanks for pointing me to the lsp plugins! great! and very useful samplers for drums in electronic music! thumbs up!

If you don’t want multi-channel to mix like a real drum set, but prefer already mixed/panned stereo drums, you can also use https://smmdrums.wordpress.com/ which are available in SFZ format (and it is easy to convert that to any format you want).

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For anyone interested in realistic drums, there are these SFZ mappings of some of Analogue Drums’ nice drum kits:

www.drealm.info/sfz/AnalogueDrums/

I’ve tried the Big Mono mapping, and it works fine in Sforzando under Wine.

I think this lsp multisampler demo deserves to be posted here:

Ive just installed Sitala. Currently im working on Ableton as I do since I started producing, but Ardour always atracted me…so thanks for recommending Sitala, it makes me feel like Im in Ableton. Greetings from Argentina.

Try Drumlabooh. It is LV2/VSTi plugin drum machine that supports own kits, Hydrogen kits and SFZ. Drumlabooh show the list of installed kits, so just select and play.

I’ve been struggling with drums on Linux for a long time…

I was looking for a realistic-sounding option… and I think the best is Drumgizmo. But Drumgizmo (and Hydrogen) has several problems… for example, each kit has a different MIDI map, so it’s not easy to switch kits once the song is finished.

If you try commercial drum kits, you can change any drum element at any time with a simple click, without having to edit a lot of files or make strange movements.

I think AV Drums isn’t realistic enough.

I tried using commercial solutions instead of Yabridge. I tried the demo version of ezdrummer and it sounds great, but it’s slow on my computer and a bit expensive.

I ended up buying the ML Drums add-ons on sale… and now I use it with Yabridge. It sounds great, runs resource-efficiently, and supports multi-audio tracks.

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Another option is to use SFZ drum libraries with the sfizz or liquidsfz plugin and sequence them directly in Ardour as MIDI tracks. This can be cumbersome, but gives you full control over how to program and mix the drums.

sfizz supports the output SFZ opcode, so you can create drum libraries, which have separate outputs for each drum, overheads, etc.

liquidsfz only supports stereo outputs, though, so you might need to use several instances of the plugin.

Creating a a good SFZ drum library can be a significant effort, though, but there are some existing libraries. I have collected a few of them in these notes:

The way I solved that was to create my own MIDI maps. It is really easy to do.

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I use Speedrum. It was about 50 euro, + upgrade to 2 was, idk…

A bit clunky, chunky, but hey… nobody did it yet.

And where to find samples?
Here’s my partial list

TR909 - very HQ, somewhere from net
TR808 - very HQ, somewhere from some other sample pack
MPX8 - very nice collection of samples coming with AKAI MPX
TR808 - got my own Pure Data synthesis going on
AVL - not unusable
Hybrid Recording Kit from Ableton (free)

plus

ChowKick (plugin) - must have
Excite Snare Drum Free (plugin) - awesome for realistic snare drum
Excite Cymbal (plugin) - decent phyiscal modelling cymbal (crash/ride type)

Also - slicer with any loop into pads
etc.

I have been using MT PowerDrumKit 2 for sometime without issue. Great drum samples and includes some limited drums grooves but overall nice VST drum plugin. https://www.powerdrumkit.com/

Solve what exactly? Could you clarify?

I sometimes use the x42 midimap plugin,so I can drive several tracks with drum instruments from one MIDI track, is it that what you mean?

If you’re still looking for the same type of thing (and quality), then give Ugritone a try.

Native Linux, tonnes of drum kits to add, very well-sampled, easy to mix, etc. It’s easy to setup and flick through the various kits to audition sounds because the mappings are the same for all kits as far as I can tell.

I tried Ugritone.

I bought some kits… but are all “metal style”. Works slow in my computer and i didnt like the interface…

In my experience, ML Drums and exdrummer have the better solutions.

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I am sorry, I should have quoted the person/issue to which I was referring. (I edited my post now.)

I meant the issue of switching kits with different MIDI maps to test/try out. I have my own MIDI map that I use for all kits. Not only it makes me be able to switch them, but since I do not record MIDI with a keyboard, but enter it by hand, the usual MIDI map is not the best for me. I now have all snares together, all toms together, all cymbals together, etc.

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Hydrogen sucks, I tried it.
If they developed it any further, it would be the best software in the world, but they not taking care of it.

I accidentally, literally, bought Apisonic Speedrum. Something they did, but I expected a confirmation, but I already bought it. Then I added 20 euros extra or soemthing to upgrade to version 2.

It is AWESOME.
Apart from performance issues, and the fact, it is a independend developer, or so it seems.

But the closest you get to something like Battery. On Linux. And Windows.

In the latest version, they have a SEQuencer mode.

It is really great, because it allows for single pad sequencing and also all pad sequencing (piano-rolll style).

They also incorporate humanization into this, including timing offsets per step, shuffle per step, shuffle per pad, shuffle all around, and a lot of other goodies.

But the performance is slightly suboptimal.