Tone3000 plugin don't work with ardour

hello,
Tone3000 has just released a plugin that will probably make noise among guitarists.
It also works perfectly under linux.

I just tested it. It works very well in standalone, lv2 and vst3 with reaper… and it does not work with ardour 9.8. I’m very sad…
I’m with a debian KDE and with jack (without pipewire)
What do you think?

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Logs from Ardour? Perhaps the plugin does not support variable block size, that was a common problem in the recent past.

Works for me in Ardour 9.7.4 (rev 9.7-4-ga80122fcd8) on LMDE7 / Debian 13

06_09_26_20_28_44

More info in this link:

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In general it you cannot mix gtk versions in the same memory space (here: gtk3 + gtk-webkit plugin loaded in gtk2 host). So I am surprised that it works, but ut depends on your distro and how Ardour is built.

Oh! i’m very surprised.
I’ll put the error logs soon but as @chris said, it seems like a “block size” problem… among other issues.
So in the meantime I use it in standalone, which I connect to ardour, but if the problem could be solved, I think it would be good because I think it is a software that will be very used by the guitarists soon.

Ardour 9.7.4 is self builded, but it works too in Ardour 8.12.0~ds from trixie

You can also use GitHub - brummer10/NeuralRack: NeuralRack is a Neural Model and Impulse Response File loader for Linux/Windows. · GitHub with NAM A2 impulses.
Sure, the interface doesn’t look as nice as Tone3000 but it does the job.

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I think the point of interest is the ability to browse and download models directly from the Tone3000 repository, more than the interface.

NeuralBlender already do this.

TONE3000 v 0.0.11 lv2 is now working for me in Ardour 9.8 (official build on ubuntu 24.04 gnome), where previous versions of TONE3000 would not draw a GUI. Without any analysis, it appears this may be fixed now, but possibly a fluke? :thinking: . It maybe worth trying again though

Indeed, it works in ardour 9.8.(debian 13) thank you for the info.

On the other hand, there is a big problem of dsp load when using the plugin IN ardour.
I have the same problem with reaper.
the only solution I see is to use the software in standalone and connect it to ardour… the DSP load disappears.

Yes, DSP load is much higher than the standalone. I’m hoping it maybe workable for tracking though.

Wait so if I am working on something that is using GTK4 and for use in Ardour it won’t work well? :-o

If by “working on something” you mean developing software, and by “something” you mean a plugin for use in a DAW, then correct, you should not in any way be using a desktop graphics toolkit for a plugin.
There are some graphic toolkits developed specifically for statically linking in plugins, those would be appropriate.

It’s not just a plugin, but yea, maybe I’ll just walk away from using GTK4 and leave it in JUCE…

I just tried the latest version of tone 3000 v0.12:
do not use the plugin in .lv2 in ardour: it is a disaster for the dsp charge.
On the other hand, I just compared the dsp load of my system between the plugin in .vst3 and the standalone version connected to ardour… and there is the same dsp charge for the moment.
so tone 3000 in vst3 seems to work well in ardour (9.8 et debian 13 system)

Thanks…The vst3 plugin is working great :slight_smile:. (Ardour 9.8 official, Ubuntu 24.04 Gnome/X11). Now I wonder why the lv2 is such a hog?