Hi, I’m an Ardour user. I’m not sure if this forum space is the right place to make a suggestion.
But it would be nice if future versions of Ardour implemented what I’m about to say.
When using the pencil tool to edit the volume directly on the waveform, it would be nice if the waveform itself changed. I use this tool to equalize parts of the track in volume, In my mixes this editing is essential and it would be a great visual aid to be able to see the change in the waveform in real time to see what volume the edit is at compared to the rest of the track.
This would be wonderful for me, I hope there are more people who think like me. Thank you.
I noticed that if you “combine” one audio region with another, it changes the waveform based on the drawn volume.
So it would be enough to add a small region of silence at the beginning, select both audio regions and then run “combine”.
Or even more simply: cut the audio region at any point, and combine the two resulting regions.
(right-click → edit → combine)
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Hello, thanks for the reply. But this doesn’t help me, the idea is to be able to see it in real time. being editing and seeing at the same time what I’m doing on the wave. Greetings.
Great suggestion, that’s clip gain automation, all major DAWs have this function and I hope Ardour Team make this implementation possible, also many more developers join the project!
Adjust the waveform to reflect the clip gain automation level would be a great update because is more precise because you can see what you get and not guess the waveform results.
Editing audio visually is a somewhat controversial topic. Some people swear by it, some people regard it as stupid and/or less accurate than listening instead of looking. I think it depends a bit on the style of music.
I wonder if some of the “cognitive distance” here is down to folks who automate clip gain via some control surface (a knob or a fader) versus those who want to draw in the automation via the mouse. I imagine that the first set of users won’t expect the visual feedback: they quickly become accustomed to listening while making the near-continuous changes allowed by the controller.
This feature is useful for making minor corrections. For example, when editing a voice to correct minor clicks, or for consonants like “P” or “S,” which are very pronounced, etc.
Hi, this feature has nothing to do with general track automation, so it’s not a matter of preference.
It’s a useful feature to do Minor surgical corrections. In fact, the ideal would be for the waveform to be composed of two types of waves, peak and rms, and with this visualization and the characteristic I’m discussing. The correction edits we discussed would be much faster to perform.
It doesn’t really matter whether you use a controller or not, because it’s not a useful feature for general track automation, but rather for fine-tuning small, minute things.
The operational feature already exists - as I said earlier, Ardour has had region gain automation since approximately forever.
The more specific thing you’re asking for is to be able to see the effect of region gain in the waveform display. That’s distinct from being able to to do the edits you’re mentioning.
Hi Paul, first of all, thank you for responding so quickly. Second, I know Ardor has automation gain control; if it didn’t, I wouldn’t be working with Ardor.
The only thing I have asked for in my recommendation is that it would be nice if in the future the existing gain automation would implement the visualization of the wave change in real time.
Unfortunately, these days we need to mix at a very fast pace to make our work profitable. And this suggestion would make my job much faster for that Small surgical gain modifications on the wave.
