I was using Ardour on Linux Mint before with no issues. I’m trying to set it up on Arch with Hyprland now. I can open a plugin GUI, and everything is fine. When I close that window and try to open another one, it pulls up blank for a second, then Ardour crashes. It could be an issue with Hyprland, but I’m not sure. What can I do to figure this out?
Maybe the same as 0010003: Zynaddsubfx causes Ardour Crash - MantisBT and LSP Plugins 1.2.23 released! - #79 by axra
(Arch linux mesa/openGL package is currently broken).
Interesting, I’ll have to try this when I have time tomorrow. It looks like they’re using the package mesa-amdonly-gaming-git. Would this work on Intel?
I found this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mesa-git
Should I try mesa-git instead?
Currently you are on mesa 25.2.3-2 ?
Yes, try mesa-git 25.3.0.
I guess it will resolve the issue.
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mesa-git 25.3.0 fixed it! Thanks for the help!
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I’m struggling with this right now. I was running Ardour on Manjaro ( no AUR packages ) and suddenly Ardour started hanging up whenever I tried to use the LSP VST3 plugins. My meters would freeze and then the screen would just turn grey.
So I built a new box with stock install of CachyOS and it does the same thing.
I came across this thread and tried to build mesa-git but it requires to be built against llvm-git which will not work.
Anyways I can’t figure this out and it’s become a huge time sink.
Any help you could offer would be appreciated.
That’s yet another Arch derivative? In which case it likely inherits the issue, just as Manjaro… maybe try something else? Perhaps some dedicated pro-audio distro that can run live from USB-key?
It’s not distro specific in the sense that any other distro could be simply having out of date packages in their repos. What I don’t understand is what revision of Mesa Ardour and the LSP plugins require to function properly. Can you clarify this requirement?
They could be holding Mesa back to not break something else deemed more important. Happens all the time.
Ardour does not require MESA at all. Only Plugins that use openGL do, and then it also depends on your graphics hardware…
… and yes other distros, notably debian, are more conservative in their stable releases. YMMV.
OK I think it’s fair to say that Ardour “requires” Mesa if you want to run plugins that use openGL on certain hardware 
So perhaps I’m barking up the wrong tree and this is really a question to be asking of the LSP developer (s)
I’ve been running Arch for decades and certainly have had my share of getting roasted on IRC at 4AM.
That said fundamentally all the distros are really the same thing minus all the “helper” scripts and package managers
Well things are never as cut and dried as they seem. I just noticed a few threads on the problems of using plugins with Wayland.
Not sure if this is barking up the wrong tree again but at least I can test it on a box running X11
Mesa 25.2 seems to be buggy still.
I just installed mesa-git from Cachy Repo. I didn’t have to built it against llvm-git. So I wonder what your doing…? What does built a new box mean?
You are just asking for problems running core system software which is still in development. Unless your goal is to help debug mesa development you should be looking for a stable version, not a development version.
When you say Mesa 25.2 still seems to have bugs, do you mean 25.2.0 or a newer minor release? My distribution is currently shipping 25.2.6 in the updates and it seems to be working well (on top of amdgpu driver), although I have to admit I haven’t exercised OpenGL much lately. Mesa has to work with the kernel driver for your GPU hardware, so there could be behavior differences between the same version of mesa with different GPU devices.
By “new box” I meant a fresh install on a clean partition.
Mesa has to be compiled against the corresponding version of LLVM and rebuilt on every update. Take a look at the PKGBUILD for mesa-git and its fairly clear.
I assume whatever mesa-git package that’s in the cachyos repo is the same package and maintainer as the one in the AUR anyway.
Anyway I think this all way off course and suspect the issue is actually the plugins and Wayland.
Mesa-Git fixed the issue for me and others.
Anyway I’m not using Ardour anymore at the moment. Too much time consuming for reporting/fixing issues.
I switched to Reaper. Nearly Zero issues/bugs/crashes on my system. More Time for Music!
My first post here was in 2007!
I’m sad to say that after all this time I think it’s time to explore other avenues. I just can’t get work done consistently.
I’ll still contribute to the project but I think enough is enough.