When you select a Region, in the Ruler bar you will notice that Range markers (red triangles) appear at the beginning and end of that Region. If you then hit ESCAPE key those markers get removed.
-If you select a Region
-Then use the Grab tool to move that Region
-If you continue to hold down LMB and have the proper Snap settings enabled, that Region will snap to those Range markers.
-After you move that Region (release LMB)
-Those Range markers now still remain where they were
-As far as I know they do not serve any purpose after Region has been moved.
(If does not cause any conflicts)
Should those Range markers be programmed to be automatically removed after the Region move has occurred? To eliminate any confusion of what they are there for.
The markers you are talking about are there to give you an idea of where the region’s start and end are on the timeline exactly.
After you move the region in the Grab mode, the region is still selected, and thus the markers are still visible. As soon as you deselect it, the markers go away.
Thank you for your response, but seems like another strange response on this forum.
Seems like you are basically just stating what I am stating as being the question.
Once the Region is moved, that Region stays selected, but those arrows remain where they were originally, but then at that point after the move occurs they do not serve a purpose?
Seems like those arrows should…
-Be removed after the Region has been moved and still remains selected
Or
-Be moved along with the Region when that Region is moved to a new location in the timeline.
Unless I am not understanding something?
If you or anyone else has any information to share about the topic please let me know.
Thank you
Selected regions or ranges have markers. I would not agree to sometimes have markers when selected and sometimes not have markers. Current behavior is correct. Always have markers for selected region(s) or range.
They are moved if you end the region move. If you move a region the markers are in their original position until you do another operation. As soon as you select another mode the markers disappear. If you select the same region in the new location, the markers appear in the correct new locations. If you are distracted during a region/range move, you can come back after an interruption and still see the original location you started from. I often move regions or range by Bars (BBT) then use alt + drag to ignore snapping and place slightly before or after the beat. I’ll also often move the region then use the spacebar and arrow keys to “scrub” the audio to decide where to finally place the moved region.
I don’t need the markers updated while I’m still in the middle of a “region move” operation.
I might use two sets of markers, one set of markers for the original position and one set for the “current” location after move. But I feel this would be distracting. When would the new position be updated? I wouldn’t want to have 10 or 20 marker position updates while I’m fine tuning the final position. I could see having a more distinct vertical line to place the final position, but sometimes I’m placing based on the end rather than the beginning. Sometimes by amplitude position, not the true beginning, but where I define the “start” of the region. Especially with reversed drums and other sounds that swell. The “start” of a reversed drum is not the reverb tailings that now are before the “hit” of the drum.
Just one opinion, but the current behavior of markers is correct, IMHO.
JoeSams
Thank you for sharing opinion, of course on this forum it is often an opinion that is opposite of mine.
Not really worth sharing more information on the topic because even if users agree, it is not likely that user suggestions are going to be added regardless, but I will share a little more because you took some time to share your opinion.
First off, I forgot to mention this suggestion would be offered as a setting
“Move Region range markers when Regions are moved”
Again, to me, once the Region(s) has been moved, the range markers then do not really serve any purpose, other then letting user know where it was originally, but once user releases LMB, they are basically confirming that they are okay with the move.
Another example that I had but did not think it was worth the time typing it out is the following regarding “Undo” action.
If you or any other users want to give it a try.
EXAMPLE 2
-Open blank session
-Drag in a basic audio sample on LEFT side of Editor timeline to create an Audio track
-Click on that Region and notice the range markers get added
-Move that Region to the RIGHT (but still visible on your screen)
-Notice the range markers remain in original location as we have discussed.
-Now perform an “Undo” action using CTRL+Z
-Now that Region returns to its original location, but now those range markers no longer remain in the original location. They instead are shown in the location the Region was before the “Undo” action occurred.
-Which again to me is kind of confusing.
Thank you again for sharing your opinion and to anyone else who reads this.
If any developers read this, would anyone be interested in offering a setting where user could choose the behavior of these range markers?
Not sure if I should make a Mantis post.