Output not connected error?

Hi,
I can record with my AKG TPS D3700 via U-Phoria UMC22 Behringer to a newly installed Ardour 8.7.0
“Sonora Portraits” (rev 8.7) Intel 64-bit on a Laptop Dell Latitude 7280.
But I can not hear my recoding.
The most probable error feedback by Adour is, that Ardour is not connected to my hardware audio output (Speakers are on, all test on any single equipment is positiv). So this is a setting error (jack I guess) within the ardour connections.

I ty to make anything as simple as possible to identify the problem. I made a number of screeshots (I numberd them!), so an expert may hopefully find quickly my mistake…

So you can see from the many screenshots, that a misconfiguration is easily made.
Which setting should I change or is it more a severe misunderstanding between Ardour and my hardware?
I work many many hours alone to solve this problem and I did not find any discussion which fits my problem.
Can anybody outthere help me?
Jorge

There should never be any need for to configure any of this stuff with 2 outputs on your audio interface (as you appear to have).

Ardour will automatically connect the master bus to the first two outputs, and all track outputs to the master bus.

I do not see in your composite screenshot one that shows Busses as the source and hardware as the destination.

On macOS, you also need to verify that Ardour has permission to play to the device.

This one…
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I changed the setting, which now looks like this…
and I can hear my voice!!! Great, great, great!!
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Thank you thank you thank you!!!

So while it may work, I have questions on what I am seeing. I can’t think of a good reason your monitor bus has three outputs for instance. Also your master bus should be routed to your monitor bus (If you are using it) and then your monitor bus would route it out to the physical outputs.

That being said it seems like you are trying to get audio out of your built in speakers on your laptop? Or how are the speakers actually connected to the laptop because the working screenshot you are showing doesn’t seem to be routed to the Behringer UPhoria which would indicate you are trying to use multiple difference audio interfaces at once, which is likely the root of your issues.

 Seablade

Hi Seablade,
This is a good question. First, I try to understand the routing in Ardour fully. However, the number of screenshot indicate, I think that I have still errors in my connections and settings…
To answer your question: I use my Bluetooth earbuds. Because those also have a micro, I have to tell Ardour not to use the laptop micro, not the earbuds, but the micro from beringer. However, even this selection is not clear in Ardour, because for example the USB earbuds appear two times…
And this all again for the output…
So in order to present you important information I first go through the manual again, and this may take two or three days, untill I come back, probably with clear grid or with further questions.
I am still an ardour beginner!
Thanks for your reply!!

Ahh ok, so yea, bluetooth and Ardour do not mix. But the other half of this. is you are using two seperate audio devices, one for input and one for output. That is likely why you had the initial problems, I am not sure how feasible that is on Windows off hand honestly just because I have run this on Mac for so long, I need to pull out my surface and check that I suppose.

There is reason for this and is covered (somewhat) in the FAQ:
https://ardour.org/faq.html#say-no-to-usb

It is not exactly your use case, but is similar.

Still not sure why you have extra Outputs from Monitor and Master Bus though.

 Seablade

Hi,
I try first to understand the input output device connection.
Ardour inform me about that with the following:
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Please correct me when I make an error my interpretation.
The screenshot show me, that the WDM (=Windows device manager??) is an information form Windows. The server (?) ASIO4All read this information and Ardour use ASIO4All instead of a windows audio server (which is Realteak??). So far so good.
The information in the screeshot tell me a number of input and output devices - also from devices, which are actually not connected to the system. So this is a bit confusion, but ok.
It is more a problem, that some devices have a micro AND a speaker. For example the laptop, my earbuds, my smartphone and also the U-Phoria UMC22.
When I start Ardour as a empty template it seems that I can not select separatly input and output. So with this template I go into a Session, without a clear selection of my AKG micro as input and my Bluetooth earbuds as output. So I am lost from the beginning. Right?
My options when I start Ardour is only Input device with ASIO4 All and RealteakASIO - and I don’t know what differences are related to it. Also the advance option does not offer more options.
I remember that I have had once the option to select the input for micro and the output device - but I can not replicate it.
Any comments to help me to understand Ardour in a better way?

WDM=Windows Driver Model. It is a description of how audio drivers are developed on Windows.

ASIO4All is a wrapper driver which connects to a WDM driver and exposes an ASIO driver interface to applications. It is in some ways the opposite of an audio server, which is typically used to refer to a piece of software which allows multiple applications to share a single audio device. ASIO has an exclusive use model, so using ASIO4All allows using software which is only compatible with ASIO to work with a device which only has a WDM standard desktop Windows driver.

Realtek is a manufacturer of electronic components, in this case an audio device which is likely attached to the motherboard of your computer.

Not sure I understand why you note that as a problem. Most stand alone audio interfaces have both input and output. That is generally what you want, using different devices for input and output is much more difficult to deal with. You can read this entry in the Ardour FAQ for a short explanation of why:
Say no to USB microphones

I thought Ardour would allow separate input and output devices now, but warn you about possible increased latency and/or loss of quality. Perhaps that has changed at some point. I do not have Ardour available at the moment to check, perhaps someone else knows for sure.

It varies depending on platform/backend and I don’t have a Windows machine right now to confirm it on atm. Hoping someone on Windows can confirm how it works with ASIO there.

  Seablade