Maybe adding a score track that’s basically an image viewer displaying a rendering from lilypond would be ‘an easy solution’ tho it would still require lots of human input for the lilypond source and syncing the rendered image to the timeline in ardour would probably be a nightmare as soon as you’re zooming. Also, the bars can have varying lengths which don’t line up with ardours grid at all.
I don’t think ardour should do scoring.
I vaguely recall an Ardour fork on GitHub attempting to implement a simple score editor a-la Denemo. I don’t think it was very successful. This is a monstrous task for one person to tackle, especially when you are adding it into a DAW.
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To all respondents . What I found
Within Reaper, you can add text ( lyrics ) into a midi note .
You would have lyric snippets including pitch. It will not cater for the intricacies of western notation
( controversial for other reasons ).
That in my opinion would do the job !
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Not just that, but editing scores requires a dedicated application all by itself. Just look at Musescore.
It is not something that can or should be integrated into non-destructive, massive multi-track, highly parameter automated record and audio/MIDI playback system (aka DAW).
One can usually go from a score to MIDI file(s), but the reverse is rarely possible.
Wow. Nice find!
I suppose that’s handy for some vocal synth; but it doesn’t look like useful for singing along. N’est-ce pas?
In theory it would not be too hard to implement this to Ardour, but i fail to see what it adds, particularly since some notes may not be visible when vertically zoomed and it seems somewhat cumbersome for lyrics.
Could you elaborate what the actual goal is that you try to accomplish?
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Hi Robin, the objective is having everything in one place ! That is of cause not necessary for already successful bands, someone else will take care of this …for a fee.
I only can guess that a the majority of Ardour users are “one”-man bands. They compose, play , sing, edit… sound engineer, all themselves ( just like me ). The next level up would be 3-4 piece band. They are probably cash strapped and do everything them self too, up to publishing eg via CD-baby.
For all of the above it would be great to have the song (music and lyrics) at one place to maintain.
To the extreme , every new idea/snippet will be recorded or lyric will be keyed in at one place.( it wont be lost !)
A subset of the snippets become a new song. That is at least how I work.
As to the different notes , if you would expand it enough you get away with. If you have somebody who can sing 2 octaves most likely not.
Alternatively you can use just “one” piano role note and play it in the rhythm the syllables are sang.
I know , it is a compromise and not as elegant I would like to have (I guess there is always the possibility for a nice frontend ) …
For me it would be a very workable approach !
cheers
My brother and I noticed this would be useful a few days ago so I was trying to implement it. The simplest way I could think of to do it, was configure Ardour as the JACK timebase master (hope thats the right term) and a simple python tool to draw the lyrics from an LRC file on the screen using JACK for timing information. To get the LRC file, i wrote another simple python tool to generate an empty LRC template that i could fill in for a given trio of BPM, beats per bar, and total bars in the song. This is hacky but it gets the job done for tracking purposes.
Unfortunately I ran into an issue with the JACK client library for python (GitHub - spatialaudio/jackclient-python: 🂻 JACK Audio Connection Kit (JACK) Client for Python 🐍 · GitHub). It’s rather crash-y and I don’t know enough about JACK to fix it, but I’m gonna try again when I get some more time.
Anyways, maybe this will serve as inspiration to anyone else who wants to try and hack their way around the problem.
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location markers are a good suggestion, not really for lyrics but for defining “special areas” (whatever this could mean). If the implementation of location markers would be extended to what Ho Ozqld shows us from Reaper this could match some suggestions.
So, my suggestion: a clickable option (rightclick on a l. m. ) transforms it into a to an editable field.
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