@paul I do respect and support the developers and apologize if I have given the impression that I don’t respect them. I also realize that my ideals and opinions are not the end-all-be-all authority of what is right, nor is anyone’s opinion the absolute authority.
‘It isn’t ok to do this, no matter how well intentioned, or what your motivations may be.’
This I must disagree with respectfully. It is not my way of thinking that rules are just simply because they are written, or that even just laws have no possibility for extenuating circumstances. That said, I can see why you say it in this instance and can appreciate the intention to defend the skilled people who are seemingly ripped off at a whole-sale level.
My comment about ‘giving ones work away for free’ is not meant to represent my personal opinion on the matter, but simply my observations. People will fight and fight against the idea of free art and information while others will fight for it, and it’s anyone’s guess what the best attitude towards it will be… however in observing the direction things seem to be going, it would seem that its getting harder and harder for developers and artists to maintain lucrative business models. My best guess is that it’s ultimately easier to change with the times and adapt however need be, but the plight of the starving artists and developers is certainly not lost on me. Im in the same boat as you guys at the end of it all.
I grew up in a family that is of a long line of musicians. When I was a kid, session work and gigs were a way to put food on the table. By the time my skills were ready to get out there as a professional, quincy jones himself stated in an interview that “there is no more music business. Everyone just gets their music for free these days.” I am still in debt, paying back the amount it cost me to formally train myself as a musician… I have dedicated my whole life, burning the boat at shore and sacrificing any chance at a normal stable career in the name of my passion to be a musician and carrying on the family torch. For us musicians in the current market, its make it or break it… and all because of the innovation of p2p sharing platforms. As hard as piracy has hit developers, I think it’s safe to say that it hit musicians even harder and I am both a musician and a developer… so trust me, I get it, and it has not exactly favored me in a financial sense. It’s just the eb and flow of changing times, I suppose…
Furthermore, I am not advising nor advocating piracy. I am advocating support of development while advocating and encouraging developers to answer the calls of those who support them. Those who make peaceful migration impossible will make violent migration inevitable. The linux audio community has been all but begging and waiting patiently for major developers to throw them the slightest bone for over a decade now… Its not really a secret that cracked plugins exist in a rampant way, and there are people out there far less sympathetic and respectful than me. If a demand goes unattended long enough, people will give up and take matters into their own hands… Linux is starting to gain major headway in recent times and I would think that a company like waves would be shooting themselves in the foot by giving no support to a small but powerful group of potential customers and developers. The pirates of Nassau were mostly former servants of the crown and freed slaves, if you get my meaning… but I digress as there is bound to be shades of gray on all sides of this discussion.
" If you need to use Windows software, the best option is to use Windows"
Again, I am going to have to respectfully disagree here. For one thing, in no universe that I can dream of is using Windows a viable option in my opinion. I would not want to open myself up to the world of design flaws and security risks that comes with using windows, nor do I wish to pay absurdly marked up hardware costs for an aesthetic that brands me as a fruit, just to participate in a social broadcasting of my status with no real technical advantages and a SLEW of corporate imposed costs and limitations with no real agreeable justification. I also do not approve of Apple’s aggressive marketing ploys which many would argue are beyond immoral, perhaps outright evil. (you are dangerously close to getting me started on apple!) For now it suffices to say that many good honest developers and consumers have been cut off from being able to develop for alternative platforms while affording their overhead because of such cut-throat strategies… And while I respect developers, I cannot accept such flagrant disrespect towards me and this community. I do not wish to buy into it - especially not while people who work in apple sweatshops are throwing themselves off of factory rooftops on a regular basis. (look it up.)
“politely suggest it to the companies that make the software, rather than encouraging people to hack around the licensing and such.”
Is not the entirety of the WINE project just a hack to run programs on a platform which it was never intended for?
I appreciate the integrity of this forum, but such integrity cuts both ways at times.
Here i go ranting again… I guess this is a hot topic for me. I’ll wrap it up by simply saying I dont advise or advocate piracy. I mean no disrespect but infact I mean the utmost respect and especially gratitude for projects like Ardour and Waves, and finally would like to point out there is sometimes a thin line between being morally upstanding and putting on a storm trooper outfit to go blindly shoot down the rebels for the empire.
When all is said and done, love you guys. If you wanna get waves working in linux I figured it out, and don’t let that steer you towards anything you don’t feel right about. As an educator, It’s good to be aware of possibilities even if you have no intention of exploring them.