To hopefully quell your gripe with the light colors once and for all, think of it this way…
It’s actually quite simple:
If you at all see a bright GREEN light, then the plugin is active/on:
If you at all see a bright RED light, then the plugin is inactive/off:
@sound8, It’s important to remember to pick your ‘battles’ wisely. Ardour is like a ±3-person effort (generally speaking), so whatever ‘issues’ you raise to the devs should be weighed with care. You might in fact be ‘right’ about this issue or that issue, —no matter how ‘small’. But believe me, if you don’t like this light-color/state design, then I am 1000% certain that you’re going to run into faaaaarrrrr worse and vastly more impactful problems with Ardour in time… So again: pick your battles wisely.
(I had already typed out response to my sidebar losing focus post that most of you were a part of, the responses to this led button post are humorous, exact opposite experience)
I don’t know, responses seem a little unfair.
I understand, but it is going in a circle because no one is actually answering the questions I am asking?
Did anyone try the example steps I mention? @jean-emmanuel
I mentioned on Mantis that there seems to be a reverse behavior being used with these lights and suggested to remove the icon and just show a button with a green led light like the plugin buttons do.
You mentioned on Mantis that they were not reversed and that they were different.
Correct?
So I said I would ask this question here, which is what I did.
If Mixer plugin buttons led light is green when “on” and you MMB click which turns this led light “off”, which then triggers the red led light to go from “off” to “on”. Then is this not a reversed approach like I mentioned?
I have never seen an application use this kind of approach before, so I was curious why this would be done this way? and thought it might be a good idea to make it a little easier for users to understand.
I will create a separate post about the freeze track, because I agree I was not expected this to turn into this either.
Thanks again
Look, and I’m trying to be fair here: if Ardour was going to be built ground-up from scratch, perhaps including your many proposed tweaks would be in order. Little (and big) things here and there would of course be re-imagined…
But for now and for some things, a standard formed —‘idiosyncratic’ or not— and it just kind of became a part of what makes Ardour Ardour.
So again, you might be ‘right’ to wish this or that design choice were different, but at the end of the day it’s best to just swallow a certain level of felt-idiosyncrasy and simply move on. Pick your battles. This one clearly isn’t worth fighting…
Yes, of course:
This is 100% acceptable behavior, not worth spending any more time being annoyed with. Again, as @jean-emmanuel mentioned, the goal here is editing/making music/sound, no? In the time spent typing this thread, you could have easily acclimated yourself to the 'green = on, red = off' design philosophy.
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The bypass button literally has a very neat and logical depiction of the plugin being bypassed, FYI:
For the record, here’s the aforementioned mantis ticket. I wish I had written @GhostsonAcid’s last post instead of mine, but the core idea remains the same.
