yes i referring section follow for random play clip hi Paul
gennaro
yes i referring section follow for random play clip hi Paul
gennaro
Thanks very much Paul.
We use QLab, too. Itās fine for video playback and simpler audio things, especially linking it to light cues simply works really good. But IMHO that is no reason not to consider theatrical playback in Ardour.
Ok, I understand. Yes, you are right, that would create chaos. Maybe one option would be to just implement an arrow to the left (undo) and to the right (redo) in the plugins, as is the case in many vst-plugins. Unfortunately not in the LV2 plugins. And this undo/redo function in plugins should perhaps only work if you control it manually with the mouse. So the user knows that CTRL-Z never applies to plugins.
I like the direction Ardour is going. It has all of the features and functions I enjoyed when I used Pro Tools / Logic but faster to execute, and now you have a tool similar to what Ableton offers. Ardour as a DAW is quite a steal IMO.
This sounds intriguing!
Just to double check, this would mean one could record a MIDI input as a clip and then loop it?
The MIDI clip then would either engage a virtual instrument or would be played back to a physical instrument via USB MIDI.
Is there
Is there a technical reason this cannot happen, or is it just a matter of someone doing the work to make it happen?
To be perfectly blunt, I just canāt be bothered. RAM these days is plentiful and cheap. If you want to load 30 minute pieces into the clip launching system, use Ableton Live. If youāre doing what most people will do, you wonāt even know that this distinction exists.
I suppose that makes sense for this use case. Iām curious about the technical architecture of this. Is it available in the master branch or is it available in some other branch? How is it available in the UI?
I am in an early brainstorming phase for a new application that I want to be something between a traditional DJ application and a DAW. Clip launching isnāt quite what Iām going for, though Iām happy this is finally coming to Ardour! This new application will be designed around mixing finished songs together so loading whole audio files into RAM wouldnāt be a good idea for my use case.
I think that moreimpostant than programming new things is to improve the workflow and fixing bugs
ā¦or Linux Show Player, if you prefer free/libre software.
Yea I just donāt know the capabilities of it quite as much to be able to say for certain what it can or canāt do:)
Seablade
Pretty damn cool! I just built Ardour7 and have been playing with clip launching and itās quite fun. Seems stable on my modest computer running Ubuntu 20.04. Iāve never used Ableton or another DAW with this feature so I havenāt quite wrapped my head around why itās more useful than just doing the same thing in the tracker, but itās certainly a cool feature to have. Took me a while to figure out to access it by opening Window > Cue Grid > Show Cues & then add tracks and the new clip launcher UI area shows up in case that helps anyone. I built it from the Github repo code and this is the info it shows:
Ardour 7.0.pre0.2367
āMore Blank Than Frankā
(rev 7.0-pre0-2367-g176c41a485)
Intel 64-bit - debug
Great to see such a feature coming to Ardour! Thanks for all the work!
THANK YOU!
Thatās a fun feature Iāve been longing for for ages.
Great work!
This is a great feature, especially when for building tracks, like backing tracks, using drum and chord loops.
Is there any plan or thoughts around extending this to support clip recording, as Ableton Live does? This would enable the use of Ardour in Live Looping performances.
Cheers,
Keith
Yes, we will (eventually) add recording directly into slots.
For the record, I donāt consider what is typically done with clips in Live to be ālive loopingā - thatās the domain of more specialized live looping tools. But yes, at some point youāll be able to do that.
Iām interested in why you say that. For the record, this is the sort of thing Iām talking about:
Cheers,
Keith
I wouldnāt want to get into much of a fight about it really.
Traditionally, live looping (with ālive loopersā) typically involved stacking layers on a single axis. Liveās workflow (as demoāed by Rachel in your link) is much closer to a multi-tracked setup. You can focus on the fact that sheās making loops āliveā, or that sheās building up a complex multitrack arrangement - both are true, and both are desirable.
Doing what she does in that video on something like a Boss looper is significantly more difficult (though far from impossible).
Thatās all I meant.
Fair enough, and I wasnāt looking for a fight either. I just see tools like this as something which is a step beyond most (for instance) typical Boss (or other vendors) loopers which, as you say, itās more difficult to do this sort of thing in.
In general, most hardware loop pedals are limited by the number of tracks they support. For instance, a Boss RC-1 or RC-3 isnāt capable of doing a verse-chorus type song performance in, unless you pre-record the loops and put them into memory slots.
Of course, thereās things like the Boss RC-500 (2 tracks), RC-300 (3 tracks) and RC-600 (6 tracks), and other vendors like the Looperlative but even with these itās more difficult to pre-configure effects, pans, levels, etc.
Some of the more accomplished looping artists move beyond this with tools like Ableton Live and Mobius (which is what, I believe, Ed Sheeran uses) running on a PC where you have fewer track limits and more control in, for instance, pre-configuring effects and levels on tracks in advance of the performance,and in mapping external controls (like RKC does with filters) to do live control of the performance.
On the other hand, Iāve seen amazing performances from the likes of DubFX with just a 3-track hardware looper and a hardware multifx board.
But my point is, thereās not really a software tool on Linux that supports this sort of thing yet, and it would be really great to see one. Even if I lack the talent and skill to use such a tool well myself.
Iām hoping that Ardour, eventually, can become that tool. And, maybe, win some fans from other platforms.
Cheers,
Keith