Changing sorting methods used in Ardour

Linux

Ardour offers two main items that deal with folders / filenames
-Import window (Add existing media)
-Sidebar-Clips section

I made some suggestions about updating sorting to support sequential numbering (which developer gfontanilla was very kind enough to update all the sections I mentioned this issue occurring in, which I am very thankful for, makes sorting so much easier to understand now)

In seeing that modifications can be done to sorting, I was wondering if it was also possible to make other sorting changes?

Would any developers be interested in making other updates to how items sort within these two sections mentioned within Ardour?

It does not seem to bother other users but to me sorting is a very important thing that seems to be overlooked in Linux.

Maybe different sorting settings can be made available to users?
This way user can have some kind of control for how their folders/filenames are displayed in Ardour, overriding locale collating settings as much as possible.
I will share more information in a slight sorting rant below if anyone is interested :slight_smile:

Thank you to anyone who reads this

SORTING RANT
To me regardless of standard locale settings used/offered, Linux sorts items oddly.
Has always seemed (at least to me) like something that is a very important part of using a computer and yet is handled very poorly throughout Linux.
Each desktop environment handles sorting differently and on top of that each file manager, open file window, terminal command, etc. within a desktop environment and other applications all sort differently even on the same system.

At one time I tried to use storage drive for both Windows and Linux (as I imagine many users do) and it is almost impossible to setup a sorting method that is compatible with both systems.

In Linux, sometimes items that start with uppercase and lowercase letters are separated into different A-Z instances.
Sometimes symbols (underscores, dashes, brackets, etc.) are ignored, sometimes they show at top or bottom and sometimes above or below items that start with numbers.
etc.

Over the years I have been able to narrow down DEs / file managers / etc. that at least come close to using similar sorting methods but then as mentioned each application seems to use their own sorting decisions as well.

Again with folders/files being the basis for all computing, it seems strange that their has never been any kind of solution within Linux that would allow applications to just load a specific sorting file that a user can setup to their sorting preferences.

Anyways, I was just hoping Ardour could maybe provide some kind of setting for this. This way existing media folder/files could be more easily navigated/understood without so much confusion.

Thank you to anyone who reads this and for any info provided

You really have to make a very strong case for this and how this can improve a user’s workflow without them getting sidetracked into configuring their preferences.

Also I expect most users don’t scroll to find some source, but instead search for it, that is significantly faster.

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As a person coming from Mac OS X / macOS, I agree with you here. Every GNU/Linux file organizer I’ve ever interacted with has failed to be as good as Finder…

However, is that not simply my conditioning? Probably yes, as Apple got to me early, as it’s all I ever had in my house growing-up. (Related: This is why Google corp. wants to get their Chromebooks into every school on Earth. -___- “Smart”, but fucking evil.)

So, question for you: Have you always exclusively used GNU/Linux machines, or did you at some point migrate to GNU/Linux from either Windows or Mac?

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Also, what’s wrong (in your opinion) with this sorting anyway, at least in the main import/embed window here?:

~Looks decent enough to not fret about, to me. :man_shrugging:

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Just tried the search feature for the first time ever on macOS:
Screen Shot 2026-06-13 at 10.03.17 AM

:grin: :roll_eyes: :man_shrugging:

-J