File/Sample/Plugin browser

lol ok, i got my hopes high for no reason :stuck_out_tongue:

yes, its exactly what i need file/sample browser with tree view and meta data.

Actually it does address in a less than ideal way one real world issue, it allows for easy browsing of samples and import without losing access to the playback controls (Which you would if you left the dialog on the right hand side) or the file list (If the dialog was overlapping on the left). This can be beneficial when searching through tons of files in multiple directories, for example if I am doing SFX for a film or animation, my library of sounds is somewhere around 40,000 files.

Now it is a less than ideal way because there still wouldn’t be a good solution for searching based on file metadata (ie. many of my SFX use text descriptions in the B-EXT chunk IIRC) or filename very easily, though to be honest I am not sure those would be difficult to add, if I ever had free time I might look at it myself. It also doesn’t allow for arbitrary categorization needed for loops/musical samples/etc. to be truly effective which is what software like Logic does. That would probably be more difficult to do well.

But it could be a start at least.

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One of the things I like about Ardour is that it’s not Ableton Live. :slight_smile:

Organising samples seems like a big enough task to deserve its own app like Sononym :

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That would be very much appreciated!

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to and that is one of the tasks I am likely capable of completing, but time is in INCREDIBLY short supply for me these days sadly. 3 Jobs (One of which is me owning a business) and trying to get my house on the market to sell mean I have no free time, and what I did have goes to fixing up the house.

And breaking bones or otherwise injuring myself repeatedly on the way isn’t helping either…

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I like the idea of using file-sample browser on the right side of the bar. The tab system can be used for fast track-plugins editing, something like ladspa style without gui

If I may, I’m a former FL Studio user, and I missed this feature a lot switching to Qtractor, then Ardour. But now I’m not so sure I need it, I’d rather find an external tool that searches, filters and sort samples, in very very large folders. Anyone knows? Yet I’m using Rythmbox but it’s not made for this. A Jack App would be great.

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perhaps

but sononym.net (see @merlyn’s post above) is likely better suited.

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Wow, Thanks a lot, I will try to help packaging it.

so from external tool you can drag and drop samples just like you would inside the daw?

Yes, you can. But note that the default operation is to “link” (reference the external file). If you have a central sample-library that’s usually what you want, but if the original file is [re]moved, the session will have missing audio.

You can hold Ctrl when dropping the file to copy it (the drag-drop icon changes) – or set Preferences > General > Session > Always copy imported files.

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I am actually curious if that is still true these days. I remember working in a time it definitely was, but with how cheap storage is these days I tend to focus more highly on portability than on storage saving myself these days. Not sure what the norm would be honestly, it may be that it is shifting.

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I dwiddle with quod-libet and drop items from its playlist straight into ardour. I get the benefit of trying to do things in more than 1 way with different workflows… Sononym is quite impressive, I will need to try that out sometime, kudos to merlyn for mentioning that :slight_smile:

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I am unable to build samplecat-git from the AUR. the build process fails at some point middle, can’t figure out the error.

actually yes i have my sample library not big around 10gb of samples and very organized folders. i always used the samples when i work in FL-Studio.

Is this the error that you’re talking about? Cause I’ve got it too.
Maybe milk (package maintainer) will be able to help us (he’s active user of LinuxMusicians forum).

Or maybe someone here can give us some hint how to fix this?

  fontmap.c:44:18: error: field ‘parent_instance’ has incomplete type
   44 |   PangoFcFontMap parent_instance;
      |                  ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
fontmap.c:62:23: error: field ‘parent_class’ has incomplete type
   62 |   PangoFcFontMapClass parent_class;
      |                       ^~~~~~~~~~~~
fontmap.c: In function ‘pango_gl_font_map_class_init’:
fontmap.c:222:42: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PANGO_FC_FONT_MAP_CLASS’; did you mean ‘PANGO_IS_FONT_MAP_CLASS’? [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
  222 |   PangoFcFontMapClass *fcfontmap_class = PANGO_FC_FONT_MAP_CLASS (class);
      |                                          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      |                                          PANGO_IS_FONT_MAP_CLASS
fontmap.c:222:42: warning: initialization of ‘PangoFcFontMapClass *’ {aka ‘struct _PangoFcFontMapClass *’} from ‘int’ makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Wint-conversion]
fontmap.c:225:18: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ‘PangoFcFontMapClass’ {aka ‘struct _PangoFcFontMapClass’}
  225 |   fcfontmap_class->default_substitute = pango_gl_font_map_default_substitute;

yes, this is the error i get

fontmap.c:44:18: error: field ‘parent_instance’ has incomplete type
44 | PangoFcFontMap parent_instance;
| ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
fontmap.c:62:23: error: field ‘parent_class’ has incomplete type
62 | PangoFcFontMapClass parent_class;
| ^~~~~~~~~~~~
fontmap.c: In function ‘pango_gl_font_map_class_init’:
fontmap.c:222:42: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PANGO_FC_FONT_MAP_CLASS’; did you mean ‘PANGO_IS_FONT_MAP_CLASS’? [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
222 | PangoFcFontMapClass *fcfontmap_class = PANGO_FC_FONT_MAP_CLASS (class);
| ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| PANGO_IS_FONT_MAP_CLASS
fontmap.c:222:42: warning: initialization of ‘PangoFcFontMapClass *’ {aka ‘struct _PangoFcFontMapClass *’} from ‘int’ makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Wint-conversion]
fontmap.c:225:18: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ‘PangoFcFontMapClass’ {aka ‘struct _PangoFcFontMapClass’}
225 | fcfontmap_class->default_substitute = pango_gl_font_map_default_substitute;
| ^~
make[7]: *** [Makefile:534: fontmap.lo] Error 1
make[7]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib/waveform/agl’
make[6]: *** [Makefile:574: all-recursive] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib/waveform/agl’
make[5]: *** [Makefile:450: all] Error 2
make[5]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib/waveform/agl’
make[4]: *** [Makefile:611: all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib/waveform’
make[3]: *** [Makefile:476: all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib/waveform’
make[2]: *** [Makefile:417: all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat/lib’
make[1]: *** [Makefile:542: all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory ‘/home/apoorv/.cache/yay/samplecat-git/src/samplecat’
make: *** [Makefile:431: all] Error 2
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
Aborting…
Error making: samplecat-git

I was able to build samplecat a while ago and run it successfully, however I had a problem with audition samples.

im relying on ardour audio import for now.:roll_eyes: