Ardour 9.8 released

The record window is very nice. Just wanted to mention it and thank the devs for it. @GMaq you should try to get used to it, you’ll see.

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Only now i caught some time, but i had to try @GMaq 's AVL 25.3 xfce version first :slight_smile: , and it’s already 1:30am Monday morning. However, aldo i didn’t compare it to Zrythm directly, i did catch one thing that i find annoying in Ardour 9.8 when editing midi in piano roll window.
This throws me out of “the zone” every time i’m trying to quickly add & rearrange midi notes - unnecessary different behaviors of draw and edit mode in this particular case (and i mean strictly in piano roll window), if you take into consideration that you already have a combined tool with either one of them.
Here’s the problem - in draw mode, when trying to extend or shrink the note duration, you don’t get this kind of change in cursor appearance:


…aldo you can do the exact same operation as when you use internal edit mode.
So when using draw mode, you can’t tell if you are on the note edge or not, so i’ll oftenly try to pull and extend/shrink the note and nothing will happen, cause i didn’t hit the exact edge of the note. It’s a little thing that i find very distracting.
In my opinion, the cursor should, in this case, behave the same in draw mode as in edit mode, considering you can do the same operation with both.

That’s clearly a bug, I can reproduce it in the pianoroll window / bottom panel, but not in the editor where the cursor updates as it should.

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Good to hear it’s a bug…i was afraid that’s the intended behaviour :slight_smile: .
I didn’t investigate everything thoroughly, but i clearly remember a feeling of being surprised with ZRythm’s midi editing fluidity during my first ever try of using it.
My guess is that this exact bug is reason why i thought Ardour’s midi editing in 9.7 feels “stiff”.

Another small thing why Ardour’s interface feels blocky, rigid, like something out of early nineties, is jumpy vertical ruler in editor window (i’m aware of Robin’s reasoning and that it is not really meant to be a slider). Maybe it shouldn’t be the default setting, but i think an option to slide the vertical view smoothly and leave parts of the tracks visible/parts out of visible area should exist. It’s kind of strange to have vertical view that doesn’t mimic the horizontal one…I can’t remember the last time i saw that in desktop app.

Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Ardour team. <3

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Is it normal for switching between tracks to take this long and feel so laggy when the Piano Roll is open? When the window is closed, everything runs smoothly.

Does this process simply require that much processing power? My laptop doesn’t even come close to reaching its performance limits.

Thank you!

Hi stapac,

I did notice this laggy track switching also.
For me thats the reason I keep the “Editor Properties Box” ( shift P ) closed.

It seems related to the amount of parameters the plugins have on that track.
When I have a track with ACE Reasonable Synth or a midi effect it switches fast, but with a complex synth like SurgeXT it takes more time to switch to that track.
( you can collapse the parameters in the Editor Properties Box to speed up switching tracks a little bit ).
Hoping the Ardour team can do something about speeding up this workflow.