Advice: Reverb for classical music

You could also try Invada Early Reflection Reverb.

I dowloaded the LSP reverb, and all de LSP plugins. However the Impulse reverb is not working , I change the settings but nothing happens. Maybe I don’t understand how the works

You need to have a IR (impulse response) to load in the LSP Impulse Reverb. These IRs are WAV files that allow the plugin to emulate a room. You can buy (like the 3 Sigma ones I’ve mentioned) or download some free ones to use with the plugin.

Here is a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBcLpAx02UM

Note: In fact I use the “Impulse Response Stereo” plugin for reverbs instead of the “Impulse Reverb”, as it’s simpler and has all I need for a reverb. (I use the Impulse Reverb for guitar cabinets, as it allows me to mix different IRs.)

@Aleph Are you finding that the reverbs you have tried are unsatisfactory? It might just be a matter of dialing in the right settings; if you are able to describe what you want in a reverb, we could probably help you better.

For classical choirs and orchestras I tend to use the free Bricasti IRs from Samplicity. For an easy interface to load them up use Robin Gareus’s one: https://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-convolver or this one: http://tomszilagyi.github.io/plugins/ir.lv2/

I haven’t found an algorithmic reverb that I completely trust on Linux yet. Nothing in the same league as my favorite Windows/Mac PhoenixVerb plugin (once Exponential Audio and now owned by iZotope). I’ll have to revisit DragonFly as it shows the most promise and it has seen some updates since I last tried it…

Ok. Thank you friends. I will try it.

I can’t find the Briscati IRs, Samplicity is maybe down…

I can find more o less a nice reverb, for the moment the best for me is Dragonfly, but I find that they are not really top reverbs they are a bit unnatural.

Try turning the modulation down in Dragonfly Hall, to somewhere around 0 to 10 percent. Some people love the warble/flutter, others hate it. If none of the free reverbs work for you, buy Valhalla and get it working with Carla’s win vst bridge.

This should work for now:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190201211631/http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m7-impulse-responses/

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Yes, working!!

I used the https://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-convolver, very simple but better sound than LSP.
I can’t compile the other plugin.

These wav files sound great, much better, more realistic…

I have a doubt: I recorded the music in stereo, two mics. Briscati M7 has have 3 files, L, R and M to S. I did a stereo bus for the reverb. Which file should I use?

You should use the quad files if possible. Still stereo but more realistic processing of original audio. I think you can combine the L and R to work as a quad too (for plugins that don’t accept quad files).

And another surprisingly good algorithmic reverb that I’d forgotten about is the one included in Harrison’s Essentials Bundle. GVerb+ I think it is called. I have used it no problems on various live choir concert recordings to sweeten the space. Just thinking about the name, it is some kind of enhancement of the open source GVerb?

With regards another Convolution plugin, try Klangfalter available here: https://distrho.sourceforge.io/ports.php

I happily use both Convo.lv2 (x42) and the Klangfalter one however at this point Convo.lv2 seems to have become my go-to in Linux world.

Also on that ports page is a great LUFS meter (I upgraded to the multimeter https://www.klangfreund.com/multimeter/) but, again, x42 loudness meters are hard to beat. And for $30 more, you get all the nice BBC VU needle-meter stuff too.

The Briscati wav files do not contain any quad.
How can I combine L and R to get the stereo with LV2 Convolution? Briscati does contain M to S files, those don’t work?

Klangfalter plugins don’t work in my system, MXLinux. Maybe I need something more updated.

IIRC it is the GVerb algorithm, just a nicer UI.

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Yes, it works better, but I think the result obtained with the wav and LV2 Convolution files is much better.

The Bricasti files do have quad options. You need to download one of the other links on the page. There are two quad options – 44.1k and 48k – depending on whether you are doing pure music or video work. Here’s the 44.1k one: https://web.archive.org/web/20190201211631/http://173.255.214.63/m7lib/Samplicity%20M7%20Main%20-%2003%20-%20Wave%20Quad%20files,%2032%20bit,%2044.1%20Khz,%20v1.1.zip

I’m running MXLinux and AntiX (the best audio platform I’ve come across!) and Klangfalter works just fine. Have you enabled the usual repos like KXStudio etc? With both those distros I started with the default ISOs and added everything I needed through repos and individual debs. The only plugin I’ve ever had to compile by hand was noise-repellent and it was totally worth it. At this point the only product I’m missing for professional classical music work is a good spectral editor and I’m afraid the newer Audacity spectral stuff just isn’t in the same league as RX both in quality and workflow (while admitting that for all other audio tasks when you don’t want to fire up a DAW it is amazing).

Thank you very much, bachstudies!! working!! Now I listen the stereo… I find the Vienna archive especially beautiful!!! :smiley:

I haven’t added any other repository.
Which ones do you advise me to add?
What do you install from those repositories? Everything? Ardour too? Can’t make the system unstable?

In my experience, the system won’t get unstable as long as you stick to the usual audio repos. As I said, try the KXStudio ones for a start: https://kx.studio/Repositories. I will look later to see which others I added. If the various respos have updated apps and plugins they will show up in your update manager automatically or when you run sudo apt update. And for things to install, use something like Synaptic and filter just the audio repos to browse. I have a list of favorite apps that I will also share later too. One that I use quite a lot that I download separately direct from the website is Loudmax as it includes various latest features like intersample peak limiting option but as Robin Gareus pointed out in a different thread, you could just use his x42-dpl and have Ardour’s loudness feature calculate things in export to ensure you get to your -1dB true peak or whatever you use.

I haven’t seen anyone mentioning buses and multiple plugins. I tend to get a better result with reverbs if I put them on stereo buses, add sends on the audio tracks and leave them dry (except for eqs or whatever). You can even put a couple of reverbs with different settings inline and maybe use two or three stereo buses in parallel, make one 100% wide and the next 75% and so on. Maybe eq them a bit different. Just make sure you set the last reverb in each chain to 100% wet. It’s a bit of hack, but it will give you a much more complex and pleasant sounding reverb. In the end I usually group the buses and adjust reverb level with the faders. This makes a/b listening really easy. Just hit “mute” on the stereo reverb bus group to hear the dry track.

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